Thor’s Hall

The Obama Doctrine.   I can’t say it any better than Subsunk laid it out here:

If the Holocaust could have been prevented……., of course, by the use of military force, then it should have been used, according to last night’s debate:

What is the Obama doctrine for use of force that the United States would send when we don’t have national security issues at stake?

OBAMA: Well, we may not always have national security issues at stake, but we have moral issues at stake.

If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust, who among us would say that we had a moral obligation not to go in?

If we could’ve stopped Rwanda, surely, if we had the ability, that would be something that we would have to strongly consider and act.

So when genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening somewhere around the world and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.

OBAMA: And so I do believe that we have to consider it as part of our interests, our national interests, in intervening where possible.

But understand that there’s a lot of cruelty around the world. We’re not going to be able to be everywhere all the time. That’s why it’s so important for us to be able to work in concert with our allies.

Let’s take the example of Darfur just for a moment. Right now there’s a peacekeeping force that has been set up and we have African Union troops in Darfur to stop a genocide that has killed hundreds of thousands of people.

We could be providing logistical support, setting up a no-fly zone at relatively little cost to us, but we can only do it if we can help mobilize the international community and lead. And that’s what I intend to do when I’m president.

If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust….? Wasn’t that what World War II was partially about? What magical wand existed in 1939 that would have saved European Jewry from the “Final Solution“, except the willingness to confront Herr Hitler with overwhelming military force, and beat his ass into submission amongst his neighbors? Didn’t happen, you say? At least not till 1940? Maybe not till 1944? And how effective were the French, British, Dutch, and Belgian armies at preventing that Holocaust in May 1940? I suppose the One wasn’t in charge then, and able to effectively direct the application of Allied military force against the Wehrmacht and that’s why 5 million European Jews weren’t saved. Because America didn’t use our Magic Military Wands to magically intervene in Europe to stop Herr Hitler when he was blaming the Jews for all the ills of Europe. Had his signature been affixed to the Final Solution documents? No. But we see who was blamed by Hitler for Germany’s problems, and how extermination was referenced in his rhetoric as concentration. How examples were made of his Jewish citizenry.

Where else does this ideology exhibit itself today? And where have we heard Hitler’s words again?

The American military was used first and foremost, to oppose Nazi Germany in Europe at the expense of the Pacific campaign (which was mostly a naval and Marine Corps campaign, although my Army father was used in the Pacific theater, and the Army most assuredly made huge contributions to the Pacific campaign). How using them quicker, or sooner, or more effectively could have occurred is nothing but Pure F*cking Magic (henceforth called PFM), and Liberal hindsight which ignores the realities of war and the overwhelming force used to defeat the Axis powers in World War II.

The lives of 405,000 dead Americans and millions of American wounded were spent for 4 years of unconditionally brutal combat to stop the perpetrators of worldwide oppression and evil intentions. Not to mention the existence of Free America and Europe hung in the balance.

It is a stunning premise that those lives weren’t spent to end the Holocaust while at the same time protecting Free societies from oppression in the most “cost-effective” and “national interests” fashion possible. While I am sure Mr. Obama didn’t mean it that way, it, nevertheless, came out that way and smacked me dead in the face.

I’m disgusted by our politicians’ inability to understand history, and to paint the last hundred years of it as something they know better about than our parents and grandparents did. Those generations looked true evil in the eye and did something about it. We understand that evil opposes our country….and elect leaders who wimp out and let Hitlers get away with Holocausts because we want the American leadership to TALK more with our enemies?

I’m done. There are no more Churchill’s and Roosevelt’s. They’ve been castrated and killed by the liberal media. For what we are about to receive, may we be truly thankful. Not….

I only caught a few minutes of the debate last night, on the radio of all things.  As big a high tech geek as I think of myself, it seems that radio is still the media that reaches me most.  Good ‘ol AM radio.

Two things that caught me hard were the “Obama Doctrine” and “Health Care”.

I want to start with Healthcare as a right.  This whole concept of rights, and inalienable rights is one that I thought has been very well defined for centuries.  There are rights, and there are entitlements, and there are business transactions.  I think that the Democrats as a whole, have gotten confused by these three things.

Rights, are something that I am born with.  Freedom of speech, Freedom of choice, etc.

Entitlements are something that the government has decided that they should assist with, generally for those that “qualify” in some manner.  I may qualify for “food stamps” and because there is a program out there I am entitled to take advantage of the program if I choose to.  I do not have a right to food stamps just because I exist.

Business Transactions – If I seek a good or service from another individual, they will generally be willing to provide that service for some sort of consideration (payment or barter).  Simple stuff.

Do I have a “right” to healthcare?  No.

Am I entitled to healthcare?  If there is a program offered, and I qualify then I might be entitled to some sort of care.

Generally healthcare is a responsibility that I have as the head of my family to seek or provide for my family.  I can do this by purchasing the services directly from a provider, finding a low cost provider (and a appropriate quality), or bartering for services.  Doc, will you take two chickens to remove by tonsils?

I apologize, I am getting a little silly with this.  The point I think is clear – we have a candidate for President who wants to eliminate some rights, and try and force general business transactions into the world of rights.

I got a little convoluted in my stream of thought post here.  Over here, there is another more articulate and entertaining view on this issue.  I reposted the whole thing below, just because I like it so much.

Now, I only have my Pocket Constitution handy, and maybe they left one out so to make it fit the pocket-sized format, but I don’t really think so.

Last night, the Presidential candidate for the Democratic Party stated that he believes that health care is a right. Flat out. Point blank. No BS from BO.

So I’m going through the Bill of Rights and I’m looking for any other Right that requires me to give money to the government so that the government can spend it for me to fulfill said “Right”.

1st Amendment – The government will not provide me with a radio or television station, or even a sturdy crate made of wood or plastic to scream off of, or even an internet connection to blog via. Nor will they build me a church to worship in. None of my tax dollars are spent to provide me with what is needed to use this right.

2nd Amendment – The government will not buy me a gun so that I can use this right. Thankfully, because instead of the M14’s that I’d enjoy having (and that Clinton had hacked to scrap), they’d probably issue me a very well used M9. None of my tax dollars are spent to provide me with what is needed to use this right.

3rd, and 4th Amendments – No and no. Both of these expressly tell the government to NOT spend money screwing me over. None of my tax dollars are spent to provide me with what is needed to use this right.

9th and 10th Amendments – Again, no and no. Both of these are free of charge to any and all. They simply and clearly state that the federal government cannot say that the first eight amendments to the Constitution are the ONLY rights given to the people and the states. None of my tax dollars are spent to provide me with what is needed to use this right.

5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments – I previously skipped over these for a reason. There is a good deal of tax money spent providing me with a forum where I can pursue these rights.

However, the people employed at these forums are employees of the government, with those in positions of decision making either elected by the people or are appointed by those elected by the people. I know I shouldn’t give guys like Obama any ideas, but I do not see anywhere in his plan where he will buy the hospitals and clinics and make the doctors, nurses and other staff all employees in a new bureaucracy of grand scale.

For thousands of years, doctors have plied their trade as individuals and as small groups. Conversely, it is historically only government, whether it be one selected by the governed or self-appointed, who has issued law.

It is only a 20th Century construct to bring medicine into the realm of government as a birthright. This idea has been shown to be an epic, almost murderous, failure wherever it is tried and no one has yet to explain exactly how or why, within reason, it should be placed in the hands of government and not left alone.

This includes the Democrat Party’s Presidential candidate. He simply says it is what HE says it is and then goes on to explain that he needs my money to make this farce happen.

If he cannot lay it down in simple terms that even a prole like me can understand, why should anyone believe him?

Wow, you need to check out this post.

FDR made America worse in many ways, but one of the worst was brainwashing people into believe that they couldn’t succeed without the help of government.

See any parallels to today’s world?